- Guest: Martin Tanner
- Hebrew OT
- Greek OT
- Christian OT
- What is the Bible
- Revelation to B Young - GSLV
Topics:
- Guest: Martin Tanner
- On Conference talks
- Early interest in Joseph Smith & the Book of Mormon
- Fake Newspapers - Murder of Martin Harris
- Book of Mormon - JS dictated from text or speak mental thought?
- Contention - 3 Nephi 11
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- Jewish views about God
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Dramatically changed God
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God is the Father
Kind - Caller: Jews, Pyramid, Numbers
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- Poor Assisted
- LDS Money
- Bishops Paid?
- Missionaries 70,000 & 30,000
- Bishops Storehouses
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- D&C 88 - some 80 JS phrases - Dec 1832
- Some Mistakes
- LDS focus on Progression
- anti-Jewish
- One Gem found by Christians among some Strange OT ideas - Lev 19
- News at Nauvoo 1840s
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- Physical Material vs
- Intelligiences
- Biblical Diversity
- Exodus 32
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- LDS Doctrine 1835 - Lecture on Faith 5
- Book of Mormon Doctrine
- Joseph's weaknesses
- Plural Marriage
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- Illegitimate Births
- Lust
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- Revelation
- First Version
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- Orson Pratt & Orson Hyde
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- Mysteries
- Joseph Smith Papers
- Council of 50 - meetings
- Joseph Smith
- Brigham Young
- Saints to Great Salt Lake City
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Laura Harris Hales, editor of A Reason for Faith: Navigation LDS Doctrine & Church History was my guest. Some of our topics include:
- 17 Chapters - by 16 authors - on 12 controversial or questionable topics - on 11 similar essays published by the Church on lds.org - compiled and edited by Laura Hales.
- The 12 topics: Money Digging, First Vision, Book of Mormon, Priesthood Restoration, Book of Abraham, Kinderhook Plates, Polygamy, Freemasonry/Endowment, Race/Priesthood, DNA, LDS Women in 21st century, Homosexuality/Gospel, Science & Religion.
- The book was published by Deseret News.
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Translation
- Joseph Smith
- Hebrew
- Greek
- Hierglyphics
- King James Version compare with the Book of Mormon
- BM 2 Nephi 22:2 vs KJV Is 12:2 vs Hebrew
- JS statements "translated by the gift and power of God"
- KJV Is 7:14 contrast with Hebrew & LXX & BM
Really Inside Mormonism: Confessions of a Mere Latter-day Christian
- Trinity?
- Christians?
- The the Godmakers
- Ed Decker
- Modern Prophets
- One true Church, many more...
- Book of Mormon
- Tight translations
- Loose translation
- Who supplied the words?
- KJV
- Brass plates
- Isaiah passages
- Council of 50
- Relief Society
- More Effective Apologetics
- A change in the recent Symposiums
- Ordain Women
- Denver Snuffer paper, "Was There An Original?"
- Sandra Tanner paper, Plagiarism - Book of Mormon
- Some thought languages and translation
- Decision to move to Great Salt Lake?
- Diary accounts written at the time
- Pondering questions on Mormon Westward movement - 1847
- Council 28 July 1847
- Problem 29 May 1847
- My statement of being a mainstream LDS believer
- Is God the Father found in both the OT and Jesus in the NT?
- LDS Godhead 1828-2016
- Mormon Creed?
- Lectures on Faith 5
- Ideas on the Holy Ghost
- Contrast between the OT & the BM
- Jehovah-Elohim-Jesus questions: Son of God, Father Son
- Joseph Smith Translation contrast with KJV OT
Fredy Martinez, is member of my High Priest Group. He, and his wife, have sent the past 4 1/2 years as missionaries in the SLC Inner-City Mission. He explained this developing Church project.
A number of sources reveal Joseph's development of the Godhead contrasting his views before and after the Nauvoo period. This provides some important insight to sort out that some views have been discarded and replaced by others.
Historic Christian Deity Terms are compared and contrasted with historic Mormon ideas: 1. Monotheism 2. Polytheism 3. Henotheism 4. Unitarian 5. Binitarian 6. Trinitarian.
1. Comments on the MHA Convention this Weekend
Critics claim regarding Joseph's First Vision accounts, 1832 & 1838, are unimpressive examining the sources from June 1830 to the end of 1832.
There have been some who claim that Joseph Smith borrowed Ethan Smith's 1825 book, View of the Hebrews, as the basic foundation of the Book of Mormon.
My guests, Matt Nelson and Chad Powell, are Masons and Mormons living in Provo:
- Masonry: history past and present
- Problems about Masonry and Mormons at Nauvoo
- Situations in early Utah and now
- Religion and Politics
- Beliefs
- Satanic?
I spent some time talking with a caller on the Mountain Meadows Massacre. He made many claims which I believe solid sources rebut.
- Brigham Young ordered the massacre through George A. Smith
- His purpose was to murder and steal always accepted by Mormons
- He knew all about the wagon train
- The upcoming 1857 Utah War did not concern his interest in the MMM
- He declared independence from the U.S. on August 24, 1857 celebration
- BY was guilty but was given a pardon by the President
- Denied that John D. Lee reported to BY in September
Ezra Booth, one of the earliest converts soon left and wrote 9 letters which were published in the Ohio Star newspaper from Oct 13-Dec 8, 1831. He addressed many topics claiming accurate accounts, events and beliefs of Mormonism. Much is contrary from Mormon sources. I addressed several of his claims which probably all historians would obviously conclude false.
- Joseph Smith claimed all authority and live beyond any gospel laws and principles
- Commit adultery
- Kill the husband
- Common consent
- Church covenants
Christopher Smith, interested in Mormon history, has published an article in the Journal of Mormon History, "Playing Lamanite: Ecstatic Performance of American Indian Roles in Early Mormon Ohio."
Lee Baker, an ex-Mormon, was my guest. We were having some difficulty discussing divergent views. These were included:
- Lee contrasting D&C 132:39 (that is using only a portion of v. 39) with Jacob 2:24 (leaving out verse 23 & 30).
- Lee claimed that D&C 132 was not printed until 1876. My point was that it was first published by the Deseret News in September 1852, by Orson Pratt in Washington, DC 1853 and that it was the topic hundreds of times from 1852 to 1876. He would not acknowledge this.
- D&C 1835 ed. was a topic which would have been worthwhile. He has maintained that the Church is hiding this from LDS. I was attempting to claim that Deseret Book has been selling the D&C 1835 ed. from 2011, but my explanation did not materialize. A meaningful discussion on the article Marriage also did not materialize. I will pursue this another time.
- Lee wanted to talk about the Joseph Smith Translation. This was a very good topic. He wanted to discuss Gen 17 about JS's change. I wanted to tie this in with Moroni 8, Acts 15, the writings of the Apostolic Fathers (95 AD - 150 AD) and the 1611 KJV translators spin on a number of OT passages. This would be a good topic.
- We went around and around about a phrase in the Teachings of the Presidents: Joseph Smith manual in chapter 43 and JS, many times, declaring that he is fallible, committed sin etc. mentioned in the D&C and in the JS manual, which Lee denied. See chapter 46 in the manual.
With my guest, Paul Brandt, we discussed many thoughts and ideas on Sex:
- Born with sexual desire?
- Does sexual desire primarily urge procreation or sex relationship?
- Only for procreation - married or not - homosexual or heterosexual?
- Do, or soon will, LDS accept Same Sex Marriage?
- Marriage - a major focus of the Church
- With or without sex
- Satisfaction
- Continence
- Increase or decrease sex drive
- Many, probably most, in the resurrection will be single
- Some LDS do not want marriage
- Some LDS are married, but do not want children
- Some LDS are divorced and do not to remarry
- Some sex problems
- Who is considered to ultimately make marital decisions, Church policy, the wife or the husband?
- Same Sex issues
- Birth control
- Old Testament
- New Testament
- Celibacy
- Eunuchs
- Fornication or homosexual - which is the greater sin?
- Statements from the First Presidency
The initial topic addressed the impressive research of a Lutheran historian, Joachim Jeremias. He discovered a long forgotten teaching of Jesus about God, his Father, referred to by him and Paul: Abba. The meaning of this, according to Jeremias, was a powerful concept at the time of Jesus a very similar LDS belief today.
- Old Testament
- Jehovah
- Holy Ghost
Mormon History Association Convention 4-7 June 2015.
- Statistics on men and women
- Recent questions about Mormons and Catholics at Nauvoo
- Indian War 1853
- Ideas about Book of Mormon geography
- 1954 issue about Blacks involving Pres. McKay, Africa, Brazil, Elders Peterson, Clark and others
- Wilford Woodruff's diaries and the question of the future of his letters written from 1831-1898
The Ensign, Gospel Doctrine and other Weekly Sunday School Topics, Priesthood & Relief Society manuals are not by any means the only sources provided by the Church for the Saints, past and present:
- Religious Studies Center at BYU in is 40th anniversary
- The project of Jeffrey Holland and BYU President Dallin Oakes
- Bold new venture publishing the works of BYU's religion faculty
- 2014 more than 100 articles published in many journals and 14 books published
- 3 upcoming symposia this year at BYU
- Two periodicals BYU Religious Education Review and the Religious Educator
Discussion with two callers on the question, Is religious scripture history?