
196. LDS Canon: D&C Changes 1876 to 1921
• 1876 Many additions and several deletions
Doctrinal ideas - Godhead, Section 130
• 1921 A major deletion - Lectures on Faith
7 Lectures on Faith - Godhead #5

- Canon - LDS
Book of Commandments 1833
D&C - 25 new sections 1876
Book of Abraham - purported
Bible - ancient languages - Spanish
Leviticus - laws
Joseph Smith Translation
Apocrypha
Family Proclamation
Solomon of Songs

- JS's 1832 History
- 12-15 years old JS extensive study of the KJV
- KJV numerous phrases in JS's writings & dictation
- JS supplied KJV phrases for the BM

- Mormon Canon
Bible - English & German Translation
Book of Mormon
Pearl of Great Price - Book of Abraham
Doctrine & Covenants - History, Historicity, Stories, Science
- Genesis 1 First: Earth first, then Sun, Moon & Stars:
animals then man & woman - Genesis 2 First: man then animals then woman

- Gods
- Joseph translation
- Ancient astronomy
- Who supplied the text
- Blacks and the Priesthood
- LDS Doctrine

- Book of Mormon printer's manuscript purchased for $35 mil by LDS Church
- Political sexual teenagers several decades ago.
- Plural Marriage vs Polygamy, Polyandry, Spiritual Wifery
Many more women than men
Women can demand marriage from righteous men - LDS condemns Lust
- Sources:
Brigham Young
Jesse Haven
John Gunnison
Orson Pratt
Helen Mar Whitney
George Q. Cannon - Brigham Young - 38 children with 12 of his 49 plural wives

- Guest: John Gee, author of
An Introduction to the Book of Abraham - Guest: Martin Tanner
- Historical Authenticity
Inspired?
Ancient?
Written by Abraham?
Abraham autobiography? - Translation?
- Ancient history

- Guest: Martin Tanner
- Guns
- LDS buldings
- DNA
- Jesus
- Book of Abraham

- View from other angles
- Ex-Mormon approach
- Mormon Beginnings

- Guest: Martin Tanner
- Hebrew OT
- Greek OT
- Christian OT
- What is the Bible
- Revelation to B Young - GSLV

Topics:
- Guest: Martin Tanner
- On Conference talks
- Early interest in Joseph Smith & the Book of Mormon
- Fake Newspapers - Murder of Martin Harris
- Book of Mormon - JS dictated from text or speak mental thought?
- Contention - 3 Nephi 11


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- Some Mistakes
- LDS focus on Progression
- anti-Jewish
- One Gem found by Christians among some Strange OT ideas - Lev 19
- News at Nauvoo 1840s
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- Physical Material vs
- Intelligiences
- Biblical Diversity
- Exodus 32
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- LDS Doctrine 1835 - Lecture on Faith 5
- Book of Mormon Doctrine
- Joseph's weaknesses
- Plural Marriage
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- New Testament
- Illegitimate Births
- Lust
- False News - tales
- Revelation
- First Version
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- Mysteries
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- Council of 50 - meetings
- Joseph Smith
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- KJV
- KJV 1611
- Other Bibles
- Beliefs about God
- Beliefs about Jesus
- Technical problem
- Phillipines - LDS membership

- Kingdom of God
- Church of God
- Joseph Smith teaching
- Progression
- Church Westward

- 3 Nephi 11
- Politics Statement
- Seer Stones
- Translation

- Abraham
- Gen 17
- Adam
- Melchizedec
- Enoch
- Law
- Paul
- Early Christians

- 1 to 16 mil
- Joseph Smith views
- Adam God Theory
- Spirit
- Intelligence

- 1831
- Newspapers
- Beliefs
- Laws 1842

Accuracy
Mind
Soul
Jesus Christ
Son of God
procreation

- Questions
- Joseph Smith Papers
- Church History Library
- Mormon Misc


Laura Harris Hales, editor of A Reason for Faith: Navigation LDS Doctrine & Church History was my guest. Some of our topics include:
- 17 Chapters - by 16 authors - on 12 controversial or questionable topics - on 11 similar essays published by the Church on lds.org - compiled and edited by Laura Hales.
- The 12 topics: Money Digging, First Vision, Book of Mormon, Priesthood Restoration, Book of Abraham, Kinderhook Plates, Polygamy, Freemasonry/Endowment, Race/Priesthood, DNA, LDS Women in 21st century, Homosexuality/Gospel, Science & Religion.
- The book was published by Deseret News.
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Translation
- Joseph Smith
- Hebrew
- Greek
- Hierglyphics
- King James Version compare with the Book of Mormon
- BM 2 Nephi 22:2 vs KJV Is 12:2 vs Hebrew
- JS statements "translated by the gift and power of God"
- KJV Is 7:14 contrast with Hebrew & LXX & BM

Really Inside Mormonism: Confessions of a Mere Latter-day Christian
- Trinity?
- Christians?
- The the Godmakers
- Ed Decker
- Modern Prophets
- One true Church, many more...

- Book of Mormon
- Tight translations
- Loose translation
- Who supplied the words?
- KJV
- Brass plates
- Isaiah passages
- Council of 50
- Relief Society
- More Effective Apologetics

- A change in the recent Symposiums
- Ordain Women
- Denver Snuffer paper, "Was There An Original?"
- Sandra Tanner paper, Plagiarism - Book of Mormon
- Some thought languages and translation

- Decision to move to Great Salt Lake?
- Diary accounts written at the time
- Pondering questions on Mormon Westward movement - 1847
- Council 28 July 1847
- Problem 29 May 1847

- My statement of being a mainstream LDS believer
- Is God the Father found in both the OT and Jesus in the NT?
- LDS Godhead 1828-2016
- Mormon Creed?
- Lectures on Faith 5
- Ideas on the Holy Ghost
- Contrast between the OT & the BM
- Jehovah-Elohim-Jesus questions: Son of God, Father Son
- Joseph Smith Translation contrast with KJV OT

Fredy Martinez, is member of my High Priest Group. He, and his wife, have sent the past 4 1/2 years as missionaries in the SLC Inner-City Mission. He explained this developing Church project.

A number of sources reveal Joseph's development of the Godhead contrasting his views before and after the Nauvoo period. This provides some important insight to sort out that some views have been discarded and replaced by others.

Historic Christian Deity Terms are compared and contrasted with historic Mormon ideas: 1. Monotheism 2. Polytheism 3. Henotheism 4. Unitarian 5. Binitarian 6. Trinitarian.

1. Comments on the MHA Convention this Weekend

Critics claim regarding Joseph's First Vision accounts, 1832 & 1838, are unimpressive examining the sources from June 1830 to the end of 1832.

There have been some who claim that Joseph Smith borrowed Ethan Smith's 1825 book, View of the Hebrews, as the basic foundation of the Book of Mormon.


My guests, Matt Nelson and Chad Powell, are Masons and Mormons living in Provo:
- Masonry: history past and present
- Problems about Masonry and Mormons at Nauvoo
- Situations in early Utah and now
- Religion and Politics
- Beliefs
- Satanic?

I spent some time talking with a caller on the Mountain Meadows Massacre. He made many claims which I believe solid sources rebut.
- Brigham Young ordered the massacre through George A. Smith
- His purpose was to murder and steal always accepted by Mormons
- He knew all about the wagon train
- The upcoming 1857 Utah War did not concern his interest in the MMM
- He declared independence from the U.S. on August 24, 1857 celebration
- BY was guilty but was given a pardon by the President
- Denied that John D. Lee reported to BY in September

Ezra Booth, one of the earliest converts soon left and wrote 9 letters which were published in the Ohio Star newspaper from Oct 13-Dec 8, 1831. He addressed many topics claiming accurate accounts, events and beliefs of Mormonism. Much is contrary from Mormon sources. I addressed several of his claims which probably all historians would obviously conclude false.
- Joseph Smith claimed all authority and live beyond any gospel laws and principles
- Commit adultery
- Kill the husband
- Common consent
- Church covenants

Christopher Smith, interested in Mormon history, has published an article in the Journal of Mormon History, "Playing Lamanite: Ecstatic Performance of American Indian Roles in Early Mormon Ohio."