Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show

Episodes of Mormon Miscellaneous, a talk show on Mormon history, scripture, doctrine and many controversial topics, by LDS host, Van Hale, now in its 38th year. All points of view are welcomed.
118. Mormon Marriage
Dec 22nd, 2014 by mormonmisc at 12:25 am

118. Mormon Marriage

A story by Wilted_Flower was posted on the internet ( The author tells of her experience with several Mormon men which did not appear to result in marriage but with a non-Mormon man, their marriage was imminent. Her bishop discouraged this relationship. After a number years, at the age of 58, never married, she left the Church because it had robbed her of this one opportunity.   More than 200 comments were posted.

I invited a guest to talk about the Church's teaching and encouragement about marriage in contrast to the claims of Wilted_Flower and most of the comments.

Guest: Paul Brandt is a psychotherapist specializing in individual, couples and family therapy. He has maintained a private practice in the Salt Lake City area for twenty-­two years. 

These are phrases typical of those portraying the Church:
  • I just hate the church and what it does to peoples lives.... No more mormon men for me.
  • You were lied to, had your youth and your first love stolen from you... you missed your chance of happiness. 
  • This cult took everything from you.
  • I hate seeing another example of the Mormon faith crushing the happiness out of a girl's life.
  • Mormonism Enslaves women
  • ...indoctrinated and brainwashed

Some discussion:
  • There are many Church doctrines and teachings that seem contrary to the comments.
  • In regard to Wilted_Flower who made the decision?
  • Marriage is not for everyone
  • Mormonism is not for everyone
  • Many diverse views among LDS
  • There are many reasons for personal relationships not based upon indoctrination.
  • Paul discussed six stages of moral reasoning
  • A caller gave examples of mixed messages
  • Paul spoke of an LDS program - Strengthening Marriage - started about 6 years ago
  • A caller quoted from the Bishop's Handbook about regarding decisions on marriage or divorce

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