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84. Mike Haxton, an ex-Mormon Bishop
May 9th, 2009 by mormonmisc at 3:08 pm

84. Mike Haxton, an ex-Mormon Bishop 

We discussed the 1611 King James Bible which Haxton claims was superintended by God and is God's word in English. We pursued the question of which KJV is God's word since it was 6000 verses longer in 1611 than the editions published today. Haxton denied this. We discussed the modern translations, I argued for their value, he contended that they contain the word of God, but they are not the word of God as is the KJV. 

We also discussed his stated view that salvation comes by grace through faith, nothing more and nothing less. In this discussion Haxton did, however, express his view that repentance and obedience to God's commands are required for salvation.

The controversial topic of the Trinity was considered briefly.

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  • Steve

    Great and informative program. I respect Mike Haxton’s approach to Mormonism wherein he says he is not interested in criticizing or tearing down the LDS church. I see this as a very christ-like thing to do. Im sure he a good christian man. Enjoyable program.

    Oct 31, 2009 at 6:26 am
  • Dave

    QUESTION: Didn’t the King James Bible when first printed contain the Apocrypha?

    ANSWER: Yes.

    EXPLANATION: Many critics of the perfect Bible like to point out that the original King James had the Apocrypha in it as though that fact compromises its integrity. But several things must be examined to get the factual picture. First, in the days in which our Bible was translated, the Apocrypha was accepted reading based on its historical value, though not accepted as Scripture by anyone outside of’ the Catholic church. The King James translators therefore placed it between the Old and New Testaments for its historical benefit to its readers. They did not integrate it into the Old Testament text as do the corrupt Alexandrian manuscripts. That they rejected the Apocrypha as divine is very obvious by the seven reasons which they gave for not incorporating it into the text. They are as follows: 1. Not one of them is in the Hebrew language, which was alone used by the inspired historians and poets of the Old Testament. 2. Not one of the writers lays any claim to inspiration. 3. These books were never acknowledged as sacred Scriptures by the Jewish Church, and therefore were never sanctioned by our Lord. 4. They were not allowed a place among the sacred books, during the first four centuries of the Christian Church. 5. They contain fabulous statements, and statements which contradict not only the canonical Scriptures, but themselves; as when, in the two Books of Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places. 6. It inculcates doctrines at variance with the Bible, such as prayers for the dead and sinless perfection. 7. It teaches immoral practices, such as lying, suicide, assassination and magical incantation. If having the Apocrypha between the Testaments disqualifies it as authoritative, then the corrupt Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts from Alexandria, Egypt must be totally worthless since their authors obviously didn’t have the conviction of the King James translators and incorporated its books into the text of the Old Testament thus giving it authority with Scripture.

    Nov 24, 2009 at 3:09 am
  • Dave

    Also check out this link on the 1811 King James Bible

    Nov 24, 2009 at 3:19 am