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First Vision Accounts 2

Posted in Mormon Doctrine, Joseph Smith, Mormon History, All Podcasts by mormonmisc on May 31st, 2007

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I continued the subject from last week, specifically assessing the argument that Joseph Smith changed his story of the First Vision to fit his developing view of the Godhead.This argument claims that in 1832, the year of the first written account, Joseph Smith believed that there is only one person who is God, who manifests himself as the Father at times, and as the Son at other times. Jesus is thus, the Father and the Son, and so according to his 1832 theology, there is only one Divine person, not two. This argument insists that his theology evolved to a belief in two Divine beings.As a result, subsequent accounts of his First Vision fit this new view of God and nine of the other ten accounts, from 1832-1844 declare the appearance of two persons.I presented and discussed several relevant sources dating to 1830-1832 which have been overlooked by those who promote this view. These sources support the position that, prior to 1832, Joseph Smith believed that God has appeared on occasion, that He appears to introduce his Son and that Jesus has a Father who is a separate, distinct personage, concepts consistent with that found in his 1838 account, the one printed in the Pearl of Great Price.Several listeners joined in the discussion, while others took the discussion down another path.

Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS

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This is the 27 May 2007 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 27th year.

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First Vision Accounts 1

Posted in Uncategorized, Joseph Smith, Mormon History, All Podcasts by mormonmisc on May 24th, 2007

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In this talk show I discuss the early accounts of Joseph Smith’s First Vision - those recorded during his lifetime, 1830 to 1844. One was written by Joseph Smith in 1832, two others were dictated by him in 1835 and 1838, and another was written by him for publication in 1842. The other six are second hand accounts. Five of the accounts had not been published until after 1969.

I am specifically interested in the allegation that an examination of these accounts demonstrates that Joseph Smith fabricated the First Vision and changed it to fit new circumstances and his developing views about God. I approach the topic by resorting to common sense and comparing some variations in the several accounts. I discuss the publication history of several of the accounts and the remarkable fact that it seems Joseph Smith was reluctant to publish an account of his First Vision until 1842. I responded to several callers and email on the topic, and to one caller, who would not affirm or deny that he is an American, but who startlingly encourages that Mormons be wiped of the earth by any means possible.

I did not get to the main point I wanted to discuss, but will pursue it next week or the week following. I believe early documents, 1830-1832, persuasively support my argument that Joseph Smith’s theological views during those two years are consistent with his claim to have seen the Father and the Son.

Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS

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This is the 20 May 2007 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 27th year.

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Mormon History w/ Mormon History Association Pres.

Posted in Polygamy, Mormon History, All Podcasts by mormonmisc on May 15th, 2007

BY.jpgMormon History with Mormon History Association President

My guests were Ron Esplin and Larry King. Ron is the current president of the Mormon History Association and also the Managing Editor of the Joseph Smith Papers Project. Continue Reading »

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The PBS 4 Hour Special

Posted in Joseph Smith, Mormon History, All Podcasts by mormonmisc on May 12th, 2007

CoverPicture.jpgThe PBS 4 Hour Special “The Mormons:” Comments & Discussion

This past week was a remarkable week for Mormonism. “The Mormons,” written and directed by Helen Whitney, was broadcast by PBS on stations all over America on Monday 30 April and Tuesday 1 May. As would be expected, opinions regarding this portrait of Mormonism are widely varied. Forums on pbs.org/mormons and newsweek.washingtonpost.com/ and lds.org have received thousands of comments and responses. “The Mormons” can be viewed at the pbs.org/mormons site. Also, this site includes complete transcripts of 13 of the many interviewed for the film, along with additional comments and discussion of Mormon history. Prompted by the broadcasting of “The Mormons,” prominent individuals from many disciplines have expressed their perspective of Mormonism from their encounter with its members, history, faith and practice.By phone and email, listeners participated in discussion of this significant event on such topics as the First Vision, Mountain Meadows Massacre and blacks and the priesthood.

Talk Show host: Van Hale, LDS

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This is the 6 May 2007 episode of the Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 27th year. To listen to future Talk Shows live, go to www.k-talk.com Sunday evenings 5:00 - 7:00 pm MST. If you have a question or comment, your participation is invited, regardless of your point of view. Your voice will be heard around the world.

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